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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: FRANCE Updates: New Scientist: France becames the first
country toopen its files on UFOs



TRUE DISCLOSURE! FRANCE OPENS SECRET UFO FILES COVERING THE LAST 50+
YEARS!

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn11443-france-opens-up-its-ufo-files.html
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070322143210.oy201j5u&show_article=1
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070322/wl_afp/sciencespaceufo_070322143210
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19325885.500
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19225754.100
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn10482

To visit the Web site:

http://www.cnes-geipan.fr
http://www.cnes-geipan.fr/geipan/
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/187422/france_makes_its_official_ufo_files.html
http://www.playfuls.com/news_005727_France_Opens_Its_Official_UFO_Archives.html
http://www.eux.tv/article.aspx?articleId=5107
http://www.foia.cia.gov/ufo.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unidentified_flying_object


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FRANCE Updates: New Scientist: France becames the first country to
open its files on UFOs

URL:
http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2007/03/france_updates_.html



http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn11443-france-opens-up-its-ufo-files.html

France opens up its UFO files
20:57 22 March 2007
NewScientist.com news service
New Scientist Space and AFP



France became the first country to open its files on UFOs on Thursday
when the national space agency unveiled a website documenting more
than 1600 sightings spanning five decades.
The online archives, which will be updated as new cases are reported,
catalogues in minute detail cases ranging from the easily dismissed to
a handful that continue to perplex even hard-nosed scientists.
"It is a world first," says Jacques Patenet, the aeronautical engineer
who heads the office for the study of "non-identified aerospatial
phenomena."
Known as OVNIs in French, UFOs have always generated intense interest
along with countless conspiracy theories about secretive government
cover-ups of findings deemed too sensitive or alarming for public
consumption.
"Cases such as the lady who reported seeing an object that looked like
a flying roll of toilet paper" are clearly not worth investigating,
says Patenet.
But many others involving multiple sightings – in at least one case
involving thousands of people across France – and evidence such as
burn marks and radar trackings showing flight patterns or
accelerations that defy the laws of physics are taken very seriously.

No explanation
A phalanx of beefy security guards formed a barrier in front of the
space agency (CNES) headquarters where the announcement was made, "to
screen out uninvited UFOlogists," an official explained.
Of the 1600 cases registered since 1954, nearly 25% are classified as
"type D", meaning that "despite good or very good data and credible
witnesses, we are confronted with something we can't explain", Patenet
says.
On 8 January 1981 outside the town of Trans-en-Provence in southern
France, for example, a man working in a field reported hearing a
strange whistling sound and seeing a saucer-like object about 2.5
metres in diameter land in his field about 50 metres away.
A dull-zinc grey, the saucer took off almost immediately, leaving burn
marks, he told police. Investigators took photos, and then collected
and analysed samples, and to this day no satisfactory explanation has
been made.

Flashing lights
The nearly 1000 witnesses who said they saw flashing lights in the sky
on 5 November 1990, by contrast, had simply seen a rocket fragment
falling back into Earth's atmosphere.
"We do not have the least proof that extra-terrestrials are behind the
unexplained phenomena," says Patenet, adding: "Nor do we have the
least proof that they aren't."
The CNES fields between 50 and 100 UFO reports ever year, usually
written up by police. Of these, 10% are the object of on-site
investigations, Patenet says.
Other countries, notably Britain and the US, collect data more or less
systematically about unidentified flying objects. In the US,
information can be requested on a case-by-case basis under the Freedom
of Information Act.
"But we decided to do it the other way around and made everything
available to the public," Patenet says.
The aim was to make it easier for scientists and other UFO buffs to
access the data for research. The website itself – which crashed host
servers hours after it was unveiled due to heavy traffic – is
extremely well organised and complete, even including scanned copies
of police reports.

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Weblinks
UFO sightings, CNES
http://www.cnes-geipan.fr/
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UFO, Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unidentified_flying_object
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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/187422/france_makes_its_official_ufo_files.html

France Makes Its Official UFO Files Public
By Griff
UFOs are something we are all aware of, some people take no notice of
them, some show a mild interest and some study them seriously.
Whatever level of interest people may have about UFOs most people will
be somewhat intrigued by them.
To date countries around the world have been very tight lipped about
the UFO information they possessed, trying their best to keep it from
the general public. Today France made a bold move by becoming the
first country in the world to make its official UFO files available to
the public.

The information has been made available today through a new website
developed by the French national space agency. The UFO information
revealed occurs during a fifty-year time span and includes 1,600
sightings.

The new online UFO archive will receive regular updates when new UFO
sightings occur in France. Each case included on the UFO website
contains every little detail about the sighting, no matter how
unbelievable the sighting may have been. Many of the UFO sightings
will be easy to dismiss or explain, but there are still a number of
calls that have stumped scientists for years.

Jaques Patenet, an aeronautical engineer that heads the "office for
the study of non-identified aerospatial phenomena" has said, "It is a
world first." He then went on to discuss some of the UFO sightings
found on the website. One of the most outlandish reports Patenent
mentioned is "the lady who reported seeing an object that looked like
a flying roll of toilet paper."

There was one case that at first seems quite interesting. This is
because the UFO sighting had thousands of witnesses around France. The
incident occurred on November 5, 1990 and witnesses described seeing
flashing lights in the sky. However when the sighting was investigated
it had a simple explanation. It had apparently been rocket fragments
entering the earth's atmosphere and burning up.

One of the most intriguing and mystifying UFO sightings in France
happened on January 8, 1981 near the southern village of
Trans-en-Provence. A man who was out working in his field reported the
incident. The man states that he heard an unusual whistling sound and
that he saw a saucer shaped object. The man estimated that the object
was about eight foot wide and that is had landed about 50 yards from
him. The man said that the UFO was dull-zinc grey in colour and that
it took off again within seconds of landing. The UFO left burn marks
in the man's field. On receiving the sighting report investigators
took samples for analysis from the site and also to photos of the burn
marks left by the UFO.

When Patenet was questioned about the government having knowledge
about extra terrestrial life he gave an answer that does not answer
any questions. Patenet said, "We do not have the least proof that
extra-terrestrials are behind the unexplained phenomena." "Nor do we
have the least proof that they aren't."

Each year France gets around 50 to 100 UFO sightings reported to the
police. Around 10 percent of these sightings are subject to on site
investigation.

Many other countries systematically collect UFO information. Two of
the biggest collectors are the United States and the United Kingdom.

The website is currently extremely busy and the unexpected large
amounts of traffic cause the server to crash shortly after launch. It
has a wealth of information that would interest even the mildly
intrigued. Expect the site to be busy and a little slow until it can
make adjustments to service the traffic. At the moment you visitors to
the site will be able to look at around 400 UFO cases. The rest of the
files will be added over the next few months.

www.cnes-geipan.fr

Sources
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070322/wl_afp/sciencespaceufo_070322143210
http://www.playfuls.com/news_005727_France_Opens_Its_Official_UFO_Archives.html
http://www.eux.tv/article.aspx?articleId=5107

More resources

www.cnes-geipan.fr



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http://www.playfuls.com/news_005727_France_Opens_Its_Official_UFO_Archives.html


France Opens Its Official UFO Archives


France on Thursday became the first country to open its official
archives on unidentified flying objects (UFO), said Jacques Patenet,
the head of the UFO study group at the National Centre of Space
Studies (CNES).

"It's a world first," Patenet said. "It's true that in the United
States you can ask for information on a case-by-case basis. But we
have done the opposite by putting all the information at the
disposition of the public."

The archives are available at http://www.cnes-geipan.fr/geipan/ and
currently contain 400 files, about one fourth of the approximately
1,600 UFO sightings reported in France since the 1950s.

All of the files are scheduled to be online by the end of the year,
Patenet said.

"We are working on the principle that there is nothing we will not put
online with one exception: protecting an individual's privacy," he
noted.

The files comprise principally witness statements taken by police
officers, with personal data erased.

Patenet cautioned that "ufologists will not find any scoops or unknown
cases in this database."

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CNES OBJAVIO NLO ARHIVU!

23. ožujak 2007.

Francuska je postala prva nacija u svijetu koje je otvoreno objavila
kompletnu NLO dokumentaciju. 22. ožujka 2007., Francuska svemirska
agencija, CNES, postavila je posebnu Web stranicu koja sadrži više od
100,000 dokumenata. Dokumenti uključuju 1650 bliskih susreta i 6000
iskaza očevidaca koji se protežu u razdoblju od zadnjih 50 godina.

Internet arhiva biti će ažurirana u skladu sa dojavama novih
slučajeva. Dokumentacija će uključivati sve slučajeve - od onih koji
su lako objašnjivi, do onih koji nastavljaju zaokupljati znanstvenike
CNES-a.

Jacques Patenet, aeronautički inženjer i ravnatelj GEIPAN-a, grupacije
koja službeno proučava NLO-e u okviru CNES-a, izjavio je da je to prvi
projekt takvoga tipa u svijetu. "Slučajevi poput onih gdje je gospođa
dojavila da je vidjela objekt koji liči na leteći toaletni papir,
svakako nisu vrijedni istrage", rekao je Patenet. No postoje slučajevi
koji uključuju višestruke očevice i dokaze poput tragova na tlu i
radarskih detekcija sa ubrzanjima koji prkose zakonima fizike. Takve
podaci uzimaju se vrlo ozbiljno.

Od 1954. godine i od 1600 slučajeva, gotovo 25% su klasificirani kao
"klasa D" što znači da "usprkos dobrim ili vrlo dobrim podacima te
kredibilitetnim očevicima, suočeni smo sa nečim što ne možemo
objasniti," naglašava Patenet. (Ovaj stav izravno je suprostavljen sa
uobičajenim skeptičnim stereotipima da se neobjašnjivi slučajevi
odnose samo na one slučajeve za koje nije bilo dovoljno podataka -
automatska paralola koja se često javlja u raspravama o NLO-ima i
rezultatima Blue Booka - G. Marinković).

8. siječnja 1981. pokraj mjesta Trans-en-Provence u južnoj Francuskoj,
očevidac je prijavio prizemljenje objekta koji je bio oko 2,5 metara u
promjeru. Objekt je gotovo odmah uzletio. Istraživači su snimili
tragove spaljenog tla, a prikupljeni su i uzorci. Do današnjeg dana,
slučaj nema zadovoljavajuće objašnjenje. Suprotno tome, 05. studenog
1990. preko 1000 očevidaca prijavilo je da je ugledalo svjetla koja
bljeskaju. No tu se jednostavno radilo o fragmentima rakete koja je
sagorijevala u atmosferi. "Nemamo ni najmanjeg dokaza da se
izvanzemaljci kriju iza ovoga neobjašnjivog fenomena," kaže Patenet
dodavši: "No isto tako nemamo ni najmanjeg dokaza da izvanzemaljci
nisu uzročnici fenomena."

CNES prikuplja između 50 i 100 izvještaja godine, koje obično
prikuplja policija. Od tih, oko 10% se istražuje na terenu. Druge
zemlje, poput Engleske i SAD-a prikupljaju takve dojave više ili manje
sistematično. U SAD-u informacije se mogu zatražiti preko Zakona o
slobodi informiranja. "No mi smo odlučili da to zaobiđemo tako da sve
bude dostupno javnosti," naglašava Patenet. "Cilj je olakšati
znanstvenicima i ufolozima pristup podacima za istraživanje. Sama Web
stranica sa objavljenom arhivom, srušila se nakon samo dva sata
poslije službene objave materijala zbog prevelikog interesa i Internet
prometa. Patenet je rekao da je CNES očekivao određeni interes za
objavljivanje arhive, ali svakako ne na ovoj razini. Materijali su
sveobuhvatni, a sadržavaju izvještaje policije i stručnjaka, skice
očevidaca, mape, fotografije, te video i audio snimke. uz skenirane
dokumente policijskih izvještaja.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070322/wl_afp/sciencespaceufo_070322143210

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19325885.500

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19225754.100

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn10482

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2007/03/france_updates_.html

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn11443-france-opens-up-its-ufo-files.html

http://www.cnes-geipan.fr

http://www.cnes-geipan.fr/geipan/



http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/187422/france_makes_its_official_ufo_files.html

http://www.playfuls.com/news_005727_France_Opens_Its_Official_UFO_Archives.html

http://www.eux.tv/article.aspx?articleId=5107



http://www.foia.cia.gov/ufo.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unidentified_flying_object

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NAPOMENA:

Eksluzivan interview sa Jacques Patentom od prosinca prošle godine za
"UFORADIO - INTERNATIONAL", kada nam je i najavio objavljivanje
arhive, možete poslušati ovdje:

http://uforadio.podomatic.com

http://uforadio.podomatic.com/enclosure/2006-12-23T16_06_32-08_00.mp3

http://hostanje.net/~transfer/uforadio/audio/Podcast_Data.htm#03uforadio-in



Interview je bio objavljen i u prilogu emisije "Na rubu znanosti", a
objavljen je i u zadnjem broju magazina "Vizionar".



Obradio:

Giuliano Marinkovic
uforadio
2007-04-06 21:10:24 UTC
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Azurirani clanci oko objavljivanja francuske NLO arhive.

http://www.uforadio.ne1.net

GEIPAN I STATISTICKI HISTOGRAMI
http://hostanje.net/~transfer/uforadio/2005/travanj%20-%20prosinac/cnesnew.htm#histogram

TV DEBATA O FRANCUSKOJ NLO ARHIVI
http://hostanje.net/~transfer/uforadio/2005/travanj%20-%20prosinac/cnesnew.htm#debata

FRANCUSKA NLO ARHIVA I PARALELE SA COMETA IZVJETAJEM
http://hostanje.net/~transfer/uforadio/2005/travanj%20-%20prosinac/cnesnew.htm#geipancometa

I nesto klasicnih;

ONLINE PRILOG "GEIPAN" IZ HTV EMISIJE "Na rubu znanosti"
http://videos.teknoloji3.com/play/o9PayYNCLmM/

INTERVIEW SA JACQUESOM PATENETOM
http://uforadio.podomatic.com/enclosure/2006-12-23T16_06_32-08_00.mp3
http://uforadio.podomatic.com

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